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Hey leelo :) good luck with your website! if you need any help, I'd be glad to help out :)
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Thanks. But the amount of help I need is indescribable. ~~ http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=leelo513&misc
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If you can get your hands on an old version of dreamweaver or something, that would help you immensely. Photoshop is also a brilliant application that will also produce html pages. Creating websites without the right tools really is a chore. It turns something fun and exciting into an exercise in tediousness. You can get a copy of dreamweaver via ebay relatively cheaply, provided you don't want the latest version. Microsoft office also has a web design package included. Freedesign I think it's called. Better than nothing. Creating links with these programs is point and click. Couldn't be easier.
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Use a CMS like wordpress or drupal. That takes care of the log in security so you just need to focus on user input. Be careful of free hosts though - they tend to disappear without warning with all your files
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[quote=darkelvensfi]If you can get your hands on an old version of dreamweaver or something, that would help you immensely. Photoshop is also a brilliant application that will also produce html pages. Creating websites without the right tools really is a chore. It turns something fun and exciting into an exercise in tediousness. You can get a copy of dreamweaver via ebay relatively cheaply, provided you don't want the latest version. Microsoft office also has a web design package included. Freedesign I think it's called. Better than nothing. Creating links with these programs is point and click. Couldn't be easier.[/quote] But writing the program from scratch is a great learning experience and gives a better feeling of self-accomplishment. However...word press is recommend. ~Abrar
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[quote=abrar13][quote=darkelvensfi]If you can get your hands on an old version of dreamweaver or something, that would help you immensely. Photoshop is also a brilliant application that will also produce html pages. Creating websites without the right tools really is a chore. It turns something fun and exciting into an exercise in tediousness. You can get a copy of dreamweaver via ebay relatively cheaply, provided you don't want the latest version. Microsoft office also has a web design package included. Freedesign I think it's called. Better than nothing. Creating links with these programs is point and click. Couldn't be easier.[/quote] But writing the program from scratch is a great learning experience and gives a better feeling of self-accomplishment. However...word press is recommend. ~Abrar[/quote] It may produce a nice feeling of self-accomplishment, and when training, you really should start from the ground up. But the issue here is that most beginners (who aren't taking a course), don't know how to do a certain thing. Nor do they know how/where to ask about how to do it. And in the more complicated situations, they don't know how to implement the code that someone else provides for them. Having a graphics user interface (GUI) helps sidestep these issues. It allows you to have the program produce the code, and then you can look at that code to see how it's done. Additional changes to that code becomes much easier if the ground work is already done. It also allows you to work in either field (coding or GUI). So if you want/need to insert some hand-written code, you can. But you've got the flexibility to perform the simple layout and textual tasks with ease. But in contrast.. there's nothing worse than working with a heap of code that you have no idea how or what effect it produces. This would be countered by doing the same thing you'd have to do without that starting code; learning. So whether you have the code or not, you'll still have to learn the base knowledge required to manipulate it. The GUI just makes your task much easier; so you don't have to learn the basics, like how to change the colour of your font, align some text, or make and link a cascading style sheet between your pages. I've been making websites for maybe 10 years now, and things are much more complicated now than then. You'll find a vast improvement in your site's appearance if you work with a GUI like dreamweaver.
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Darkel...what? Without learning the basics ground up you can't learn how to to the more advanced things. And Leelo already knows the basics. She's used internal CSS style sheets in the Herald Square Malls and has done alot of the coding. Leelo has done coding ALOT longer than I have, but I understand a bit more and how to be "flexible". Guess what...Herald Square Mall wasn't created from scratch. Alot of the stuff was taken by permission from the Nursury Malls. If you ask alot of professional developers most of them say that they started off using just Notepad and their FTP and eventually went to GUIs and programs that would organize the site easier.(Such as the program Coldfusion when people work with databases) Thats just my opinion backed up by reasons. Edit- By the way Leelo is this the new page? http://www.neo-leetso.co.cc/
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It sounds like you're arguing that people shouldn't use programs like frontpage, dreamweaver, and coldfusion because they need to or should first learn via notepad (or similar). The main point of my argument was that dreamweaver allows you to work with the code directly as well as via the GUI. In fact, when working via the coding, the programs conveniently colours your code according to purpose as well as alerts you to some fundamental problems. Working with a professional package doesn't negate the opportunity to learn and train via working with the code directly. Just because it can be done with notepad doesn't mean you should use it as a preference. That other professionals (like me) have had to use notepad or similar to learn (due to need or university requirements) is a mute point. My argument is that you have two legs; working with the code directly, and working with the GUI. It's easier to learn to walk, and then run if you use both.
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yeah i use frontpage to type out the text and other static areas of the site (the fact that you can see a preview in realtime is great) for php and javascript i use notepad++
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[quote=abrar13]Darkel...what? Without learning the basics ground up you can't learn how to to the more advanced things. And Leelo already knows the basics. She's used internal CSS style sheets in the Herald Square Malls and has done alot of the coding. Leelo has done coding ALOT longer than I have, but I understand a bit more and how to be "flexible". Guess what...Herald Square Mall wasn't created from scratch. Alot of the stuff was taken by permission from the Nursury Malls. If you ask alot of professional developers most of them say that they started off using just Notepad and their FTP and eventually went to GUIs and programs that would organize the site easier.(Such as the program Coldfusion when people work with databases) Thats just my opinion backed up by reasons. Edit- By the way Leelo is this the new page? http://www.neo-leetso.co.cc/[/quote] I wanted it to be but i cant set it up correctly. Thank you for all the input but I dont wanna spend any money on the site. so thanks, i found a decent looking layout, so if anyone could look at my page and tell me what you think. www.neo-leetso.isgreat.org I need help with one thing and I looked at the ENTIRE coding and can't figure it out, why is the top image repeating itself? and the footer also. ~~ http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=leelo513&misc
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