A Black Hole in the Super Shop Wizard?

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[quote=Nilrem]Im pretty sure the black hole is because there is a limit in the 10 SSW searches it will show from each SW Alphabet category. I believe its only 2 at the max. For instance I am nilrem0 so A&N is my category. I can have the 3rd lowest price in all of neopia, but if 1 and 2 are also A&N then they will show up, and I wont. Since its reached its max it will find the next lowest price from a different alphabet category. I could be mistaken, but to double check look at one of the items that wont show up and see if the reason is b/c 2 of the people below you are in your category. You can use this to stratagize with your reselling plan. Maybe youll profit if you can price it the highest on the SSW but it might not be worth it if you have to make sure your one of the 2 in your alphabet category, bc that might limit your markup. GL[/quote] Nil is pretty much right. Its not a SSW glitch, but the way it was coded to work. So all users are grouped together by letters, and when using the SW, you see the lowest prices from 1 group. Well the SSW gets the 2 lowest from all the letter groupings, then puts it all together to make the SSW list... i think its the SSW list that you see when using the SSW in portal (its much longer than 10 shops). Then if you are using the sniperspace one, it chops off the extra users, so you only see top 10. If you price the lowest on SSW, you should definitely appear though, so thats a glitch, or maybe you are searching for an item that has the same name for 2 items
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I thought the SSW searched 2 seperate sets of letters each time. a-b-c-d-e or f-g-h-i-j (as examples) I'm not really sure about all of them, but on SW the letters that go together are a,n - b,o - c,p - e,r - f,s - g,t - h,u - i,v - j,w - k,x as an example I have found an UB item on the wiz at 99k. but when searching for the item it doesn't show up on every search. the most recent was when SKNeggs went UB (none on the wiz) I would put one in my shop for 99k. it didn't show up on every SSW search, but did show up most times.
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It's 3 groups put together, 2 letters and a number. DQ3's are my section for example. --- Step outside, take a breath of fresh air, then look down to see if you have a new text message.
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Thanks for all the input, it is reassuring to know it is not just me. I think this is what I like about Neopets the most, watching how things work and why they do. The details I forgot are Firefox is my browser and I do have NoScript. [quote=Nilrem]I could be mistaken, but to double check look at one of the items that wont show up and see if the reason is b/c 2 of the people below you are in your category.[/quote] Aha! I am in the G and T group and there were two G names already in the SSW list. Changing my price to that of the higher G bumped them off the list and I appeared. This led me to discover my problem stamp does show up on the portal SSW view (the non pop-up one) that lists 20 people but not the short list. Hunh. That is frustrating to think the SSW is not really the ten cheapest in Neopia then as I have been thinking. Really a minor thing and fine when I want just to buy the one cheapest most of the time but interesting nonetheless. Knowing this if I ever have to start over again I will go for a name in one of those lesser used letter groups to increase the odds of being one of the lowest two prices in my group.
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Nah I constantly see more than 2 of each letter column in the SSW. If your price is exactly the same as the ones at the very bottom it can throw it off there. It seems to be random when putting ones of top of each other. One search I will be on top of another item priced exactly the same and then another I will be below it.
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[quote=Gavin63]Nah I constantly see more than 2 of each letter column in the SSW.[/quote] On the 10 shop SSW pop-up list or is that the 20 in-portal SSW view? Thinking on it I realized the SSW black hole is more of a protection than a hassle. Maybe by design, listing two per shop group is a buffer against one of those groups having a price drop due to competitive pricing and completely taking over the SSW list as a result.
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[color=#33CCFF]This has happened to me a lot. I use FF with No Script and Key Scrambler.[/color] [quote=thebirthdayprincess][quote=Gavin63]Nah I constantly see more than 2 of each letter column in the SSW.[/quote] On the 10 shop SSW pop-up list or is that the 20 in-portal SSW view? Thinking on it I realized the SSW black hole is more of a protection than a hassle. Maybe by design, listing two per shop group is a buffer against one of those groups having a price drop due to competitive pricing and completely taking over the SSW list as a result.[/quote] [color=#33CCFF]Both views. SSW (10 or 20 view) is simply the lowest priced items in Neopia. If there are 20 in one shop group....those will be the only 20 you see. [/color] ~ Mimi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~ temps_bons graphics ~ http://www.neopets.com/~Mimi_Miaulement
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wait how do you get 20 views?? o.O!?!
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If the cheapest 20 in all shops are the letter g that is all you will see in the SSW.
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"Nah I constantly see more than 2 of each letter column in the SSW." I have never seen more than 2 from a group on the 10 list SSW a screenie of that would be interesting. :o on the other hand i have never used the 20 list SSW

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