Hits Vs. Sales

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I dont think hits are that important, even in real life I often go to the shops and never spend a penny. My Shop http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=buy_swap_or_sell&misc only 1 spot available at Pets Paradise Market Place looking for shop size 550+ (1001np deals & gifts) http://www.neopets.com/~Vegemite_Kid
I have 51 Pages of Wearable Items 4 Sale in my shop, you never know what Bargains you may find. I restock around 7 times a day. To get to my shop please press on the link below http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=buy_swap_or_sell
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If you aren't main then you have to be shop wiz priced or at least close in my opinion because otherwise I really don't see where your hits are coming from. If I was only getting 20 hits a day then I would quit and it wouldn't be worth my time but for me I'm averaging between 100-200 depending on the day. And right now profits and views have been up and down like crazy. I'll be 200 on day and 100 the next, but I make sure at least half my items are wiz'd priced or at least in the top 6 or so in wiz so I get wiz hits. Now low hits could mean huge profits - especially if you're a shop like books where people tend to buy a ton of items in one visit. For me higher hits does't mean higher profits. I do map pieces therefore I've noticed a lot of my wiz hits don't result in sales probably because it's people checking prices. But either way, the shops getting 9 hits a day aren't good for the mall. The owner needs to say something to those shops and tell them either drop the prices or start advertising more, because low shop views for them mean less possible mall hits for the rest of the mall. And whats the point in being in a mall if you aren't going to get mall hits? Just be a stand alone shop otherwise and be able to sell everything. But I will say that even being a size 100, and starting out at 40 2 weeks ago - I've been malling for 2 weeks now and the mill I put into my shop has tripled/quadrupled at least. Not sure since I don't have exact numbers on how much my stock in my shop is at the moment, and knowing that I've spent some profits on other things like hoarding away neopies prizes and upgrading. But my mill is back in my bank and then whatever my shop is worth is the rest. http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=evilbluemunkeyz
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@ Cris, if you have a full mall, but cruddy shops, how is that good? Yay for having a full mall, but if you aren't helping your mallers, what is the point of your job? Thanks guys. I am just saying that I think there is something wrong, and being a mall leader you need to work with those people. Not worry as much about recruiting, because recruiting will never be over. Make the members you have the best they can be =) And yeah, mini malling should not be your only source. For sure. I am excited to make the leap to MM =)
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well i want to expose my personal case... im on a mini mall and i invest all the profit i get i get less than 10 from the mall... generally 3 or 4 wich are useless or the other persons around and i price my stuff like 1k or maybe up to 4k in cool looking items and those things... and i get all of my shop hits from advertising in the boards, i have a few things sw priced... but they only get me like 12 - 15 hits at the best... and the day i advertise my shop, and only keep slowly bumping... i get like 100 hits really easily... i also advertise my shop in my siggy and have random boards outside the shop ads board (in wich i get badly flamed) but working hard on advertising and encouraging people to bookmark me gets me good profits :)
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I noticed when I advertise on the boards I might get 10 hits an hour, which isn't worth my time *unsure* maybe I'm just not doing it right *lol* ------------------------------- See my new screenie petpage? (: http://www.neopets.com/~TKDChampion www.youtube.com/TKDJamesPakTKD Check out my Martial Arts samplers =)
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It may just be me, but I do usually make more neopoints when I have more hits. This was NOT the case when I was doing wearables, as some of my best sales days were not necessarily my highest hits days... and quite frankly I have no answer why it is the case now that I'm doing paint and faerie (especially given the fact that I, unfortunately, cannot dedicate myself like I once could given my new job and school restarting). - Kara
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[quote=TKDJamesPakTKD]I noticed when I advertise on the boards I might get 10 hits an hour, which isn't worth my time *unsure* maybe I'm just not doing it right *lol* ------------------------------- See my new screenie petpage? (: http://www.neopets.com/~TKDChampion www.youtube.com/TKDJamesPakTKD Check out my Martial Arts samplers =)[/quote] For me I just start a board and just have an extra tab open so therefore every 10-15 minutes I'll randomly bump the board if I'm online. Therefore I'm really not taking out extra time and I can get a good number of hits that way, especially if other people are bumping the board for you. But for me I just put that I use SSW to price. Its a great way to get hits and people automatically assume that means lowest on SSW when necessarily you aren't so people don't cross check prices. Kind of shady, but its marketing. It's kind of like saying no one is better because technically who is no one? Could mean a company called no one and if they don't exist then you're statement is true even if there are a lot of companies better than you. But if you're a quest shop it might be best to advertise partially on the quest boards as well since people will start bookmarking that way. http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=evilbluemunkeyz
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It is always a gamble when getting people together to accomplish a goal. It makes things much harder when you don't know these people. Malling is a group effort and I for one can get myself all worked up when I look at other shops hits...I don't kill myself and am not on neopets 24-7 but I have worked out a strategy that continually puts my shop with top hits...I've even played around with changing my mall affiliation to see how I stack up and I still kick ass. I do agree that low shop hits means there is a problem....definitely a problem. What can you do though? Some people are bewildered by the very simple advice that has been given over and over here as if there were some secret method besides hard work. Malling is like life, you get what you put into it...little effort in the areas that get people to look at your shop = low hits, low sales, etc. Yes, we all know that every so often one person buys 100 items...but we also know that we are not talking about that. Sometimes I think these boards are just filled with people trying to give every possible scenario as if experienced players have no clue. I am not referring to anyone and this phenomenon is not only on this site but everywhere! I can't tell you how many times I try to have a linear conversation (one that starts at one spot and tries to move toward a goal) and find myself explaining every nuance of what I have said so that the person I am speaking to can play the devil's advocate. When did debate become the way people think, talk, and deal with EVERY ISSUE? Sorry...turned into a rant kinda....anyway -- malls should be full or 90% full if they expect good players to stay in the mall. Shops who get less than 20-25 hits each and every day should be put into the "going-nowhere-fast-branch"...~1 hit an hour, come on...that is not too much to ask. Either they are not stocking the right items, pricing the right way or just not logging in if they can't get that. As with life there are self motivated people with goals they want to achieve and then there are people who want status without putting in the work. And yes, all of this is over-simplified but the adults here can just go with what I've written to read the over-all message which is this: you're right Larissa, lol! ~ Mimi temps_bons graphics ~ http://www.neopets.com/~Mimi_Miaulement
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[quote=temps_bons]It is always a gamble when getting people together to accomplish a goal. It makes things much harder when you don't know these people. Malling is a group effort and I for one can get myself all worked up when I look at other shops hits...I don't kill myself and am not on neopets 24-7 but I have worked out a strategy that continually puts my shop with top hits...I've even played around with changing my mall affiliation to see how I stack up and I still kick ass. I do agree that low shop hits means there is a problem....definitely a problem. What can you do though? Some people are bewildered by the very simple advice that has been given over and over here as if there were some secret method besides hard work. Malling is like life, you get what you put into it...little effort in the areas that get people to look at your shop = low hits, low sales, etc. Yes, we all know that every so often one person buys 100 items...but we also know that we are not talking about that. Sometimes I think these boards are just filled with people trying to give every possible scenario as if experienced players have no clue. I am not referring to anyone and this phenomenon is not only on this site but everywhere! I can't tell you how many times I try to have a linear conversation (one that starts at one spot and tries to move toward a goal) and find myself explaining every nuance of what I have said so that the person I am speaking to can play the devil's advocate. When did debate become the way people think, talk, and deal with EVERY ISSUE? Sorry...turned into a rant kinda....anyway -- malls should be full or 90% full if they expect good players to stay in the mall. Shops who get less than 20-25 hits each and every day should be put into the "going-nowhere-fast-branch"...~1 hit an hour, come on...that is not too much to ask. Either they are not stocking the right items, pricing the right way or just not logging in if they can't get that. As with life there are self motivated people with goals they want to achieve and then there are people who want status without putting in the work. And yes, all of this is over-simplified but the adults here can just go with what I've written to read the over-all message which is this: you're right Larissa, lol! ~ Mimi temps_bons graphics ~ http://www.neopets.com/~Mimi_Miaulement[/quote] Thanks Mimi. And I totally get it. Yep, people go around in circles it seems...to prove their point will go off topic, but hey it is what it is. My point is our mall needs individual work with members. If they are not willing to take advice and work, then why have a spot filled to just bring the other members down? Why not keep the dedicated so other future mallers see and want to become that- successful. =) But it is okay. I have made my stance. Thanks guys!
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[quote=Starr_2525]I know that when I'm getting less than 10 hits I'm losing NP (I'm currently independent and just starting to grow my shop) I seriously believe low hits = shop needs work. I found that by just putting my shop link in my Neo siggy I got four times the hits and about twice the sales.[/quote] Not only shops. If the hits are low, the problem could be in the mall itself. Every member should be dedicated in doing their part (putting Shop Wiz prices is crucially important in a mini-mall just because there is no other form of traffic) _______________________________________________ Bugsy's GUIDE to Effective SHOPKEEPING and MALLING: Version 3: Learn More About Hut Positioning http://www.neopets.com/~bugsy_lenny
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