Internal Promotion Advertisment Feedback Request

Submitted by roby_367 on Wed, 08/07/2009 - 7:06pm
I recently felt I needed to add some internal promotion to my shop and felt the best way to go about that was using some slick graphics. I produced a "Meal Deals" banner in the spirit of Dmitri's work (if this is too close to your work, let me know. I did, however, do all of this on my own). The result is found in my shop and can be accessed directly from the link below: http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=roby_367#i I look forward to hearing from all of you, and hopefully from Dmitri himself.
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Yeah some people puzzle me. There was one person who read my "What's the heck with people sending the same message multiple times" thread on kiln. And then proceeded to make 5 spam boards one after the other. ...and EXPECT me to affiliate with their new site that is pretty much the same as NeoMallers. That's like saying: F*** off. Can i be your friend?
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saudor | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 6:47am |

[quote=Dmitri]All i can say is... w0w0w. And that's not in a good way either *unsure*[/quote] I guess that is a no roby_367
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raquza | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 6:47am |

Yeah thats pretty blatant, I would take it down and come up with your own ideas.
killercars5000 | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 7:19am |

[quote=killercars5000]Yeah thats pretty blatant, I would take it down and come up with your own ideas.[/quote] yeah i think so too know. It really does look similar just the clours and where the things are placed. But the whole design is all the same
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raquza | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 7:21am |

Some interesting feedback. The way I am looking at this is that while this is not an original concept, it is an original work. We note that on the topic of style, Dmitri offers a number of premade graphics in a similar style to those of this mall, this one is admittedly much closer to the ones his mall uses (that said, it does not violate neopets rules). I also note that this banner has (and will have) very few effects on Dmitri and his mall. It does not cast them in a negative light, and it makes no claims that my shop is one of theirs. This distinguishes between what is an imitation and what is plagarism. If there are some specific changes you, Dmitri, would like to discuss, PM me please. Edited for poor word choice.
roby_367 | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 11:03am |

[quote]Dmitri offers a number of premade graphics in a similar style to those of this mall, this one is admittedly much closer to the ones his mall uses (that said, it does not violate neopets rules).[/quote] Yes but you will notice that they are different in terms of layout, content positions, etc. Your banner is extremely similiar. You added the same effects in the same areas. Placed the black content areas in the same areas,etc The only part that differs is the actual wording and banner by YOURNAME is on the left side
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saudor | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 1:14pm |

[quote=Dmitri][quote]Dmitri offers a number of premade graphics in a similar style to those of this mall, this one is admittedly much closer to the ones his mall uses (that said, it does not violate neopets rules).[/quote] Yes but you will notice that they are different in terms of layout, content positions, etc. Your banner is extremely similiar. You added the same effects in the same areas. Placed the black content areas in the same areas,etc The only part that differs is the actual wording and banner by YOURNAME is on the left side[/quote] I can understand your concern, hence your post here. I did, however, when making my banner take steps to avoid placing the content in the same areas as the ones that I saw from your mall, in particular the food banner (I did not, though, look through all of your banners). I also note that the content layout used in most of these cases is a pretty standard one for promotional banners; a title at the top, followed by a subtitle then some variety of mapping and information below followed by a "Click Here to..." space at the bottom. I also went through lengths to keep the banner within the scope of my mall by adjusting the colour schemes of all images I chose.
roby_367 | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 5:06pm |

[quote]I also note that the content layout used in most of these cases is a pretty standard one for promotional banners; a title at the top, followed by a subtitle then some variety of mapping and information below followed by a "Click Here to..." space at the bottom.[/quote] Well sure but even then it doesnt have to be like that order either. The special effects, for example are almost identical. Plus black isnt the only color to achieve a sleek look. This site for example uses a blue-white scheme and still achieves that look. But at least you had the guts to make a board... unlike the other 29458282 who just lift my content word for word, line by line, and every bit of css without even changing the values P.S. and they arent chris_mcdonald noobs either. they are size 1000+ mallers.
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saudor | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 5:14pm |

[quote=Dmitri] Well sure but even then it doesnt have to be like that order either. The special effects, for example are almost identical. Plus black isnt the only color to achieve a sleek look. This site for example uses a blue-white scheme and still achieves that look. But at least you had the guts to make a board... unlike the other 29458282 who just lift my content word for word, line by line, and every bit of css without even changing the values P.S. and they arent chris_mcdonald noobs either. they are size 1000+ mallers.[/quote] Unfortunately having an orange mall banner tends to limit ones colour choices; black does look quite nice. Suggest some alternatives and I'll be happy to try them out though (I did run a couple of other schemes through, namely a lighted one which I didn't find nearly as aesthetically pleasing).
roby_367 | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 5:22pm |

I would still take the banner down, because 1) Dmitri is quite obviously not pleased with how similar they are to his, and 2) out of respect for his work. Even though you didn't copy it word for word, it is still stealing his ideas. Plus if everyone made banners "similar" to Dmitris, Dmitris banners would no longer be unique.
killercars5000 | Thu, 09/07/2009 - 5:38pm |

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