A Black Hole in the Super Shop Wizard?

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A Black Hole in the Super Shop Wizard?
I like to find things to sell on the Super Shop Wizard and then list them with just enough of a profit to stay on the SSW list. Works well most of the time but every once in a while I put something in my shop that should appear in a SSW search and does not appear there yet shows up on the regular Shop Wizard list in the right place among my alphabetical peers. Is there a black hole in the SSW that eats certain items for a group of users? Often there seems to be a price gap so I suspect other users are also having their item not show up. Is this a known glitch and is there a work around? Are there known items that give users trouble? I remember I had this trouble with a Marrow Bean and now a Seasonal Stamp is doing this to me. There are two things that make this a problem for me. First, I have difficulty selling an item when it is not listed in a SSW search when it should be and have to depend on someone to find it by regular SW or recognizing it as a low price if already browsing my store. The other concern is how often this seemingly black hole in prices happens. I am starting to wonder when I see a break in prices like the first three of something on the SSW being 13,000 something NPs then the other seven 18,000 something. Maybe that is an opportunity to buy some things to resell or maybe I would get stuck with three things that refuse to display when I price them at 17,999. Having to check with the regular SW to see if there are some missing 14-17,000 prices defeats the purpose of the SSW. So, the short version of my longwindedness is do you ever notice an item of yours missing from the SSW when you know it is priced to show up?
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I've seen this happen a couple of times for me, where I've priced something that SHOULD show, but doesn't. It's only been a couple of times, not consistently, so I just sort of ignore it.
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I have noticed this when I was trying out the Opera browser.. have never noticed it with Firefox though
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I have noticed it in IE. usually it was a lot of items, like tongue shrinker or angelpusses. i change the price slightly to see if itll show in a different spot of the ssw, but it still doesn't show. I removed the items entirely and put them back and it still didn't show. So i was like whatever , and eventually they sold so I'm sure it showed up eventually.
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Apparently, if i remember what i heard correctly, these black holes in the SW were to prevent people from abusing the greasemonkey FF addon. It caused alot of commotion a couple years back when tnt started freezing just for having that firefox add-on. (it's apparently an add-on like Noscript aka can be used for other sites) but i guess someone created a neopets "script" for it and tnt punished people for having it (even though they didnt use the said neopets add-on) correct me if i'm wrong though.
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what is this greasemonkey addon :0 I have so many.. i dont know the names well. If its good .. I want it! XD
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Actually, Greasemonkey was used to record the top 6 or 7 items in a shop wiz search and record the average on a database off-site. People could check the price of some items and graphs were made of the fluctuations. Anyone who had greasemonkey and put in a certain script automatically sent the data in whenever the did a wiz search. Several users would go through their safety deposit boxes, finding new items to add to the database. Another script was made through greasemonkey where if you right clicked on an item's name, a mini wiz search would pop up after a minute or so with the cheapest 5 shops and the names, so you wouldn't have to leave the page to find a price. The database was called Ipricing and I think it is still functioning today, although the user who made the script was frozen and the owner of the database was too. The mini wiz search script was what fired TNT up, because they said it was giving an unfair advantage. So instead of freezing those that used the wiz search without going to the actual page, they froze everyone with greasemonkey. Greasemonkey is not a neopets-only add-on, so several frozen users called Viacom complaining. I myself participated in helping the database grow by using the shop wiz with greasemonkey on to record prices. I thought it was a wonderful idea. You could see how long it took a particular item to go up in price (like retired items) or how codestones went up and down in price. As far as I knew, it wasn't aiding in giving me an advantage. But once the freezings started I deleted greasemonkey. Now with the new versions of Firefox, TNT can't detect if you have greasemonkey running or not. I'm not interested in the details of Neopet's economy anymore, just as long as noobs buy stuff from my mall shop. See, Neopets used to be interesting :P
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Im pretty sure the black hole is because there is a limit in the 10 SSW searches it will show from each SW Alphabet category. I believe its only 2 at the max. For instance I am nilrem0 so A&N is my category. I can have the 3rd lowest price in all of neopia, but if 1 and 2 are also A&N then they will show up, and I wont. Since its reached its max it will find the next lowest price from a different alphabet category. I could be mistaken, but to double check look at one of the items that wont show up and see if the reason is b/c 2 of the people below you are in your category. You can use this to stratagize with your reselling plan. Maybe youll profit if you can price it the highest on the SSW but it might not be worth it if you have to make sure your one of the 2 in your alphabet category, bc that might limit your markup. GL
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[quote=Nilrem]Im pretty sure the black hole is because there is a limit in the 10 SSW searches it will show from each SW Alphabet category. I believe its only 2 at the max. For instance I am nilrem0 so A&N is my category. I can have the 3rd lowest price in all of neopia, but if 1 and 2 are also A&N then they will show up, and I wont. Since its reached its max it will find the next lowest price from a different alphabet category. [/quote] this
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[quote=Chris][quote=Nilrem]Im pretty sure the black hole is because there is a limit in the 10 SSW searches it will show from each SW Alphabet category. I believe its only 2 at the max. For instance I am nilrem0 so A&N is my category. I can have the 3rd lowest price in all of neopia, but if 1 and 2 are also A&N then they will show up, and I wont. Since its reached its max it will find the next lowest price from a different alphabet category. [/quote] this[/quote] I put the lowest price in all of neopia, not 3rd. and it does not show, hm..
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