Rant rant rant!!!

Submitted by kirsty_to_stay on Wed, 07/10/2009 - 1:05am
Gah!!!! I just realised almost every active topic right now is pathetic mini malls (no offence *cough*) recruiting. For crying out loud (i'm on a mission not to swear) whats the obsession? I wonder if i'd be pushing the boundaries a bit to write the following words "go away" 0:-) ...perhaps. Just had to rant a little :*
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[quote=mayarend]~ May ~ I'm proud to say the mini mall I manage is an exception As you can see I'm not even posting here anymore haha We have a couple open positiong (4 I think?) but no one cares, not even me, since they're not big deals... People are having great sales, upgrading and working on their own without me pushing their butts to do so and I'm on another mall, cause I didn't create a mall cause I wanted to "be the boss" but cause I thought it could be nice and my guild could use one... And I'm on a mall adequate to MY shop size (much above the minimum 70 of my mall, my shop is 337 now) Anyone disagree? :)[/quote] Not hahaha :O you should post here more. As I said before I know there are exceptions, I only mentioned one exception, of course people have pointed out others such as unknown utopia, I had heard of that one ;) I know, or at least used to know a few people in that one, just slipped my mind to mention that one. Same as of course I was in a mini mall or 3 myself before getting into main. Whether it's worth doing or not wasn't so much the issue. I just can't stand ploughing through all the recruitment boards just to find what people have been chatting about while I was asleep. Yeah i'm somewhat lazy. I did find though that all except 2 of the active topics yesterday morning were under main market size recruitment. One of which had a min size of 550, so I guess that one wasn't so bad, although i'd still never heard of the mall. The rest were kinda "have a go I want to be cool and have my own mall and it will crash and burn before christmas" types 0:-) It's just quality over quantity that seemed to be somewhat lacking. Seems they all think leading a mall will be a walk in the park, when actually it's a pain in the ass :P Rewarding if you are doing it for the right reasons, but a hell of a lot of work. ___________ [color=gray]Kirsty, aka evil super mod[/color] [size=11][i]Sniper, maller, restocker Silverdragon siggy stealer Best wearables shop owner ever![/i][/size]
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kirsty_to_stay | Wed, 07/10/2009 - 11:17pm |

[center] :P Well, I suppose we can forgive you for not mentioning UU Mall, since you don't hate our small-shop-size guts after all. :O Mini malls CAN be a good idea, but like... Dmitri (if I remember right) said earlier, it depends on their purpose... Malling as part of a group makes it much easier to keep yourself interested, upgrading and all of that. There is no way I'd have gotten anywhere near being in any market at all, if I wasn't in a mini mall. :O Some day hopefully I'll hit main, but thats not the sort of thing I could just up and do overnight. XD And its not something I would ever come close to if I wasn't committed to my group of mallers. *nods* ------------------------------------------------------------------- [url=http://www.neopets.com/browseshop.phtml?owner=raine_storme&misc]~~ Come visit my map shop ~~[/url] [/center]
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raine_storme | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 3:06am |

mini malls are ok. as ineffective as they are they still help you with the concept and bring exposure. micro malls arent. seriously with a size 50 shop? when was the last time you clicked on a mall banner? wiz shoppers usually do not click on mall banners to buy other stuff. its just not worth the hassle since many micro malls have rules like a boot camp and the owner often is barely 13 years old and cannot handle commitment (there are exceptions of course) i know i was a dumbass at 13 and definitely not capable of leadership
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saudor | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 5:27am |

I started in the Nursery and if it wasn't for that mall and Cris, I would not be where I am right now. I have to admit I tried creating my own mall. I had NO idea what it was about at all, i just thought I'd code people together and that was it. It wasn't easy finding members. That died pretty quickly. So I believe mini malls are great (now none under 100 like D said), but they need to be ran properly. I think they are more work than bigger malls. They may be easier to get members, but the turn over rate is higher and the members need more coaching.
angel_shortcake | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 6:06am |

[quote=Dmitri]mini malls are ok. as ineffective as they are they still help you with the concept and bring exposure. micro malls arent. seriously with a size 50 shop? when was the last time you clicked on a mall banner? wiz shoppers usually do not click on mall banners to buy other stuff. its just not worth the hassle since many micro malls have rules like a boot camp and the owner often is barely 13 years old and cannot handle commitment (there are exceptions of course) i know i was a dumbass at 13 and definitely not capable of leadership[/quote] ~ May ~ You know... The thing is that people in Subliminal mall say they are making HUGE profits they never did before... Simply cause they had shops size 20 that never had anything in it XD Now that I manage it and I say.. keep more pages of stock, you need more variety, you can stock this and that that sells well... And they actually do it, so they are selling well It's not the mall conections that makes them sell more, is the fact they are adapting to the mall standard that makes them sell more and get bigger and better :) But they think it's the mall.. altho, in a way.. it is, it's not directly - if they knew what they were doing, before, they wouldn't need the mall Hell, I was a size 85 when I started using this site, now I'm size 337 XD And Kirsty, I would post more but I'm REALLY lazy and can barely check neo, let alone neomallers XD Plus from working and such, my english is deteriorating -.-' I try to stay tuned on stuff with english sites so I can at least maintain a conversation XD Thank God I have a long weekend so I can stock my shop, poor thing has 400 empty spots I'm even afraid to check my portal... lol
~ May ~
mayarend | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 4:15pm |

Well it depends on the definition of "HUGE" profits but here's mine: Daily Profits (not sales) 1mil+ Excellent/HUGE profits 500k - Very Good 300k - Ok 200k - sucks 100k - crappy 50k - shitty <50k - ROFLMAO
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saudor | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 4:43pm |

[quote=Dmitri]Well it depends on the definition of "HUGE" profits but here's mine: Daily Profits (not sales) 1mil+ Excellent/HUGE profits 500k - Very Good 300k - Ok 200k - sucks 100k - crappy 50k - shitty <50k - ROFLMAO[/quote] ~ May ~ That's for you, your shop and your item cattegory. You might call me a moron, whatever, but I don't think I make 50k a day in profit (not sales, altho sometimes I don't have 50k in sales either, depending on the day) but with KQ and such, I can make up to a mill every 15 days/a month (depending on a bit of luck) and I think it's pretty good :P For someone that did barely no sales at all (my mall ppl) with shops size 10, 20, making 100k a day which some of them are doing (one girl is almost size 200 by now, with more counter hits than me, selling furniture and makes like 100k average sales/day XD) is huge. It's not huge for you, it's huge for them tho... Your definition of huge doesn't apply for these people, OBVIOUSLY. Or to me.
~ May ~
mayarend | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 5:01pm |

I'm not calling anyone a moron. What I;m saying is: people's definition of "good" sales vary so you cant really take their word for it when they say "good" They might think it's good but you might think it's crap. I know i experienced that within my own mall as well
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saudor | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 5:07pm |

[quote=Dmitri]I'm not calling anyone a moron. What I;m saying is: people's definition of "good" sales vary so you cant really take their word for it when they say "good" They might think it's good but you might think it's crap. I know i experienced that within my own mall as well[/quote] ~ May ~ Well my whole post (and I might be too tired to have made myself understandable) was meant to say that mini malls were good even at smaller sizes, where the advantages were much more on helping people understand, organize and get excited about shops and malls than actually linking them together... And it doesn't matter if the profits were actually good... They were good to them, which makes them want more - that was my point.. I think Sorry, I'm falling asleep, so I only make sense to myself XD
~ May ~
mayarend | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 5:39pm |

[quote=Dmitri]I'm not calling anyone a moron. What I;m saying is: people's definition of "good" sales vary so you cant really take their word for it when they say "good" They might think it's good but you might think it's crap. I know i experienced that within my own mall as well[/quote] Yeah, I find that 15K a week is a great profit for me, and others laugh at that much a day, just because I don't have the time to finish pricing everything in my shop which will lead to me making it bigger, then becoming Mall worthy when I have more time. Edit: Lol I read that over and realized it can look pretty whiny, just to mention that I'm saying this with good intent, not insulting to self intent :D
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davymuncher | Thu, 08/10/2009 - 6:40pm |

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